Reloading 9mm: Comparing two sizing dies

A long while back I was writing about how I made a shim to keep cases from hitting my sizing die.

Let me take a step back though to explain what this thing does. For this I need to go back to the gun itself. When you pull the trigger a fire a round an interesting thing happens in the chamber — the case expands. Why? Simple: brass is a very soft metal. Its job isn’t to hold in the pressure of the gun powder. It serves to purposes: hold the un-fired cartridge together and as a seal in the firing process.

The first of these is obvious to anyone that has ever picked up a round of ammunition, the second is less intuitive. While the tolerances in modern firearms are very tight, there’s some huge tolerances in ammunition. Some of the specs allow for a hundredth of an inch in either direction! Yes, I know that sounds small, but it’s actually really big in this case. Even if you could make it a perfect fit, you wouldn’t want to; the moment a piece of dirt or grit got in the chamber you wouldn’t be able to feed another round in.

The upshot is the chamber (where the cartridge sits at the breech-end of the barrel) is bigger than the case. When you pull the trigger the primer ignites the powder and that starts to push the bullet out of the case. At the same time it causes the case to expand to seal the chamber from the hot gasses that are being produced. If this didn’t happen, you would have a lot of blow-back of gasses since the burning powder would try to get around the case and back out the breech-end of the gun — into your face!

So, at the end of that process you have a case that was bigger than it started. So big in fact that it might not chamber a second time. Certainly it’ll be too big to hold another bullet. What to do: resize the case to the original size! That is precisely what this die does.

Well, what was going on is that the Redding die kept jamming things up. The case mouth would hit the die instead of going in and resizing. Perhaps it’s stacking tolerances with the press, shell plate, and die, but regardless the reason it would hang up perhaps a third of the time.

So I decided to try to get another die. I picked up a Lee since they are pretty cheap. Sometimes people seem to avoid them because they are cheap… but I’ve not had any real bad luck with them. Above the Lee die is on the left and the Redding is on the right.

What you can see when looking into the business-end of the dis is that the Lee has a slight chamfer on the edge that the Redding lacks. This is both good and bad. Good since in the 500 rounds I made today I had no hangups. Bad because it doesn’t size the case down as far. But sizing it down that far isn’t strictly needed anyway since the case head doesn’t really grow while things are being fired.

So… there you have it. A $21 solution to an irksome problem.

CCW

I took the class for my CCW the weekend before Thanksgiving. We went to the sheriff’s office after Thanksgiving, but they were closed. Another two weeks later we went back.

I applied for my CCW back on 12/10/2011.

Somehow they lost it for a week and a half.

Last Tuesday, while my car was laid up with a bad clutch, I got the call that I finally have my concealed carry weapons permit.

Why?

Mainly to be able to carry guns to the range easier.

But now I have the choice to carry whenever it’s legal.

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I guess in many ways it’s a good thing that I got it. The background check is completely clean.

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Carry means I can carry. Legally.

People that break laws do so anyway.

That’s the part that people miss: laws only constrain the law-abiding.

Glock 17/23 + Ghost Trigger: Range Report

Ok – this is really a two-part thing. The obvious thing is the Glock + Ghost trigger review. A secondary thing is a back-handed review of a Tula primers with the Ghost trigger.

With the 23 I shot hand loads with Winchester primers. The 17 I shot with a lot of Tula primers and a lot of Winchester primers. The Ghost trigger came with a four-pound striker spring to replace the stock six-pound one from the gun. This is a good thing in one way and a bad thing in another.

Going back to the trigger for a moment. I am in love with it. I shot a 1-1/2″ group with the 23 from 30 feet without really trying. It’s nice and smooth and is everything the stock 17 trigger wasn’t.

Now with the 17… all the Winchester-primed rounds went bang the first time around. The Tula (Russian primers) had three rounds in 100 that didn’t go off the first time. Two went bang the second time and the third took three strikes for it to set off the primer. I know the Tula seats a lot harder than either the CCI or Winchester primers and I’m thinking it was from a harder or thicker primer cup that’s causing the issue.

Of course I can switch back to the six-pound spring with no problems… In fact I might do that next time around.

More later…

Teardown Tuesday – Glock 23

I’ve kind-of taken apart a Glock pistol to show how it works, but not like this!

Today we go from:

To this:

The objective is to put on a Ghost connector and spring set that I got last week. Taking a step back my Glock 17 started off with a notchy annoying trigger. I did manage to get it under control, but it wasn’t fun to shoot. I read some good reviews of the Ghost trigger system and decided to jump in!

First off I’m going to strip the frame of the gun (mostly). This is a simple task. Three pins (or two in some of the older models) later the guts are out there for you to see. The only thing I didn’t take apart is the magazine release and the slide release. I didn’t have a need to for this operation so I didn’t — but it should be pretty easy if I understand it correctly.

From here I remove and replace the trigger spring. This spring counteracts the pull of the striker spring. All this takes is a push and twist. Easy peasy.

Next up is the slide.

There isn’t a hard part to this. All you need to do is push the striker sleeve in a bit and the slide cover comes out. Next, the striker and spring combo. Finally (and cool engineering) the firing pin block and extractor which normally interfere with each other come out.

In my case I’m replacing both the safety spring and the striker spring in order to lighten the trigger pull.

The assembly is just about as easy as the assembly. As I put the slide together I function test the operation. Likewise the lock-work’s operation is verified. As a final test the overall workings are verified with a few dry-fires.

By the way — I do have to say the trigger feels absolutely great! I’ll be trying this out on the range tomorrow and I’ll report back!

The Big Guns

Ok. So, really only one big gun… but that’s OK.

When I was switching jobs I promised myself that I’d get myself a gun of some variety when I got my new job. It was a toss-up between a 30-06 and a .44 Magnum. I set the criteria based on the properties of my next job and after I got the job the choice was made for me.

The gun in question is a  Smith and Wesson .44 Magnum revolver.

I had a .357 that was one of my dad’s guns back in the day:

It looks like a big gun. A good old Model 686 with a 4-inch barrel.

Now it’s met its big brother.

The .357 is a L-Frame model. The .44 is an N-frame. In the hand it’s substantially bigger.

They are both formidable, but I would be far more afraid of one of these:

As is the ammunition.

 

The one thing I have to say is that while developing a load for this cartridge, the gun beat me up. The grip, right where it met the inside of my thumb, started rubbing my skin under recoil. Over the next 120 rounds this led to a blister.

That’s what I get for not wearing a glove. BTW: I settled on 20 grains of 2400 under a 240 grain Elmer Keith-style lead bullet. It shoots well.

 

CCW – Part 1

En and I are taking a concealed carry course today and tomorrow.

It’s being taught by a couple of cops who used to be partners a few years ago: Vini and Bobby. They used to be together working on the RTA police force. One of them has since retired from one force and is working at another one.

Vini is more a beat cop and has all the stories about the past 30 years he’s been on the force. Bobby seems more like the formal trainer. He still works for the RTA but he’s been training folks at the police academy and does things like SWAT and sniper training as well; you can tell by his draw that he’s been doing this for a while.

But back to the point — obviously the first question is “Why? Why the hell do George and Ennie want to get their concealed carry permit?”

The simple reason is that going back and forth to the range can be easier. Right now we have to put some things in the trunk and other stuff in the back seat. Ammunition and guns need to be kept separate enough and I don’t want to be taking chances that some configuration might be considered “loaded” and get in trouble for it.

Beyond that though the class is worthwhile.

First off we’re going through the CCW manual. Really knowing the gravity of what you’re dealing with and the laws surrounding it is good to know even if you never have to think about picking up a gun in anger. About half the book is all about the use of deadly force — the what’s and how’s of the issue.

Having the cops up front that actively deal with it on a daily basis makes things real. Vini has been there. Really.

At this point we’re 2/3′s done with the class. Four hours remain tomorrow. We’ll be getting some range time to prove we know how to work these things.

Oh, did I mention that this is all taking place at En’s coworker’s house? They have their own range in the back yard. How frickin’ cool is that?!

But having a neat little mouse gun would be cool too…

Case History

At the range while picking up some brass I picked up a .45 ACP case.

That’s not news at all of course since I’ve picked up hundreds of .45s over the past year or so. It just had an “old” look to it.

For some reason I turned it over.

E C 42

This case tells a story far beyond it’s humble appearance.

World War II was a big deal. Everyone knows that. Afganistan and Iraq are a big deal too, right?

In a word, “no.”

There’s fewer and fewer folks that know how big the difference really is. I only know through reading and I’m sure I’m only scratching the surface, but it is a big deal.

E C 42

This round was manufactured in 1942 as you might guess. This was part of the war effort. E C is Evansville Chrysler made in Evansville, OH.

Chrysler, the same folks that make cars.

Everyone in the US that could make something for the troops was doing so.

Chrysler had the equipment to form metal — they were making cars and all. Brass is a ductile metal just like everything else. The making of brass for shell cases is just a simple matter of squeezing the brass into the shape you need it.

Not just folks that make cars… What about IBM?

They made almost 350 thousand M1 Carbines. Underwood (the folks that make typewriters) made over half a million of them.

Not just industry of course, but every day people needed to change too. The old saw about women drawing lines up the back of their legs to simulate nylons — nylon was in very short supply. Rubber. Steel. Copper. Just about everything.

Imagine yourself in that situation. Like if Google suddenly shut down to crack encryption codes for instance. What would you do without Google? What about gas rationing? Rationing in general?

We’re soft now.

I don’t think we could make it.

Overpressure Ammunition

We came back from the range a week or two ago and with the cases that we’ve fired we seemed to pick up a rogue case.

In sorting En properly picked the 10mm from the pile of .40 that we shot. They are basically the same case, but the 10mm is a bit longer and it uses a large primer to set it off. Looking at it I quickly found something amis with it.

Of course that’s not what a proper 10mm. The jagged edge is a dead giveaway.

Left: Proper fired 10mm case. Right: Recovered 10mm case with a lateral split.

Looking at the primer, while not an exact science, really told the story.

This was shot out of a Glock. I’m going to presume that it’s out of a Glock 20 since I’ve never seen anyone with a 29. You can tell that it’s from a Glock because of the peculiar rectangular firing pin channel. Of course in this instance it actively flowed into the channel and completely flattened itself against the breech face as well.

Even the head-stamp shows a bit of distress.

The 10mm cartridge is really hand loader’s cartridge. It doesn’t have a lot of guns that are chambered for it as well. That being said it is a large-capacity cartridge and you can easily tune the load from a very light load to a real barrel-burner. The Starline brass is another piece of evidence since they mainly cater to handloaders. (I have seen Starline on a commercial loading from Fiocchi in .40 S&W, but I’ve never seen it elsewhere)

Putting the pieces together I can only guess that this particular case was overcharged, perhaps double-charged.

Here’s what it should look like, compared to the blown up round:

The case on the left shows no signs of the primer flowing at all. You can still see the radius at the edge of the primer as well. The head stamp seems significantly clearer as well — though that in and of itself isn’t enough to go on since I don’t have any other examples of what 10mm Starline brass looks like. Incidentally you can tell the good case was also fired out of a Glock, perhaps out of the same one. (I picked up the good case around a year ago; the broken case is from a week or two ago)

Here’s another example of a fired large pistol primer in a different (and lower pressure) case:

I don’t have any unfired factory large primer case, but they look a lot like the small primers.

All of these are from Winchester white box 9mm. Their still in their original case in this picture.

 

Here’s all of the fired large primers in one picture for comparison purposes.

I just wonder what happened to the gun when this round was touched off. Certainly it left some of itself in the chamber of the gun… How bad was it?

 

A festival of 9mm

Quick little post today… En and I went out to the range and shot off a bunch of 9mm (-ish) rounds today.

Loading up a magazine of either hand-loaded lead into the Sig X5 or factory ammo for the Beretta 92FS and Glock 17. To mix things up we had the Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum too.

Hey, the .357 is only 0.002″ bigger. I count that as the same as the 9mm.

It’s fun.

We shot off around 550 rounds give or take… around 200 rounds of hand-loaded lead, 300 rounds of factory (I have a pile of factory 9mm… I have jacketed bullets ready to load, just haven’t had the need) and anther 50 or so .357 Magnum hand loads.

Switching between the guns makes you focus on the fundamentals: sight picture and trigger control. I think I was shooting a lot better at the end than the beginning.

As an added bonus I think I’m getting a better handle on the Glock than before. I was complaining about the feel of the trigger but I think I’m finally getting used to it.

Mind you, the Sig’s trigger is infinitely better anyway… but I think I can finally shoot the Glock as well.

Reloading – a random tip

Quick and random one today. When I buy boxes for ammunition they always seem to come with stickers for the load information.

That might work fine for rifle loads when you load up 20 for hunting or something, but it seems to be a bit insufficient for pistol loads when I load up 300 in an sitting (or more!) and I reuse the boxes over and over.

That got me thinking about labels.

At OfficeMax I came across some semi-permanent labels: Post-it Labels

Here’s the template I’m using for them: Load Data Labels

I can tell you that they do go on fine, and just as importantly they come off fine too.

Here’s what I’m recording on each label: Lot Number, Cartridge Type, Powder Type, Powder Amount, Bullet Type, Bullet Weight, Overall Length, Production Date and Notes

All of these are also recorded in my log book (well, Google Spreadsheet), but it provides a great quick reference. (The log also includes things like lot numbers, and a whole bunch of other settings…)