Teardown Tuesday – Glock 23

I’ve kind-of taken apart a Glock pistol to show how it works, but not like this!

Today we go from:

To this:

The objective is to put on a Ghost connector and spring set that I got last week. Taking a step back my Glock 17 started off with a notchy annoying trigger. I did manage to get it under control, but it wasn’t fun to shoot. I read some good reviews of the Ghost trigger system and decided to jump in!

First off I’m going to strip the frame of the gun (mostly). This is a simple task. Three pins (or two in some of the older models) later the guts are out there for you to see. The only thing I didn’t take apart is the magazine release and the slide release. I didn’t have a need to for this operation so I didn’t — but it should be pretty easy if I understand it correctly.

From here I remove and replace the trigger spring. This spring counteracts the pull of the striker spring. All this takes is a push and twist. Easy peasy.

Next up is the slide.

There isn’t a hard part to this. All you need to do is push the striker sleeve in a bit and the slide cover comes out. Next, the striker and spring combo. Finally (and cool engineering) the firing pin block and extractor which normally interfere with each other come out.

In my case I’m replacing both the safety spring and the striker spring in order to lighten the trigger pull.

The assembly is just about as easy as the assembly. As I put the slide together I function test the operation. Likewise the lock-work’s operation is verified. As a final test the overall workings are verified with a few dry-fires.

By the way — I do have to say the trigger feels absolutely great! I’ll be trying this out on the range tomorrow and I’ll report back!

The Big Guns

Ok. So, really only one big gun… but that’s OK.

When I was switching jobs I promised myself that I’d get myself a gun of some variety when I got my new job. It was a toss-up between a 30-06 and a .44 Magnum. I set the criteria based on the properties of my next job and after I got the job the choice was made for me.

The gun in question is a  Smith and Wesson .44 Magnum revolver.

I had a .357 that was one of my dad’s guns back in the day:

It looks like a big gun. A good old Model 686 with a 4-inch barrel.

Now it’s met its big brother.

The .357 is a L-Frame model. The .44 is an N-frame. In the hand it’s substantially bigger.

They are both formidable, but I would be far more afraid of one of these:

As is the ammunition.

 

The one thing I have to say is that while developing a load for this cartridge, the gun beat me up. The grip, right where it met the inside of my thumb, started rubbing my skin under recoil. Over the next 120 rounds this led to a blister.

That’s what I get for not wearing a glove. BTW: I settled on 20 grains of 2400 under a 240 grain Elmer Keith-style lead bullet. It shoots well.

 

CCW – Part 1

En and I are taking a concealed carry course today and tomorrow.

It’s being taught by a couple of cops who used to be partners a few years ago: Vini and Bobby. They used to be together working on the RTA police force. One of them has since retired from one force and is working at another one.

Vini is more a beat cop and has all the stories about the past 30 years he’s been on the force. Bobby seems more like the formal trainer. He still works for the RTA but he’s been training folks at the police academy and does things like SWAT and sniper training as well; you can tell by his draw that he’s been doing this for a while.

But back to the point — obviously the first question is “Why? Why the hell do George and Ennie want to get their concealed carry permit?”

The simple reason is that going back and forth to the range can be easier. Right now we have to put some things in the trunk and other stuff in the back seat. Ammunition and guns need to be kept separate enough and I don’t want to be taking chances that some configuration might be considered “loaded” and get in trouble for it.

Beyond that though the class is worthwhile.

First off we’re going through the CCW manual. Really knowing the gravity of what you’re dealing with and the laws surrounding it is good to know even if you never have to think about picking up a gun in anger. About half the book is all about the use of deadly force — the what’s and how’s of the issue.

Having the cops up front that actively deal with it on a daily basis makes things real. Vini has been there. Really.

At this point we’re 2/3′s done with the class. Four hours remain tomorrow. We’ll be getting some range time to prove we know how to work these things.

Oh, did I mention that this is all taking place at En’s coworker’s house? They have their own range in the back yard. How frickin’ cool is that?!

But having a neat little mouse gun would be cool too…

Case History

At the range while picking up some brass I picked up a .45 ACP case.

That’s not news at all of course since I’ve picked up hundreds of .45s over the past year or so. It just had an “old” look to it.

For some reason I turned it over.

E C 42

This case tells a story far beyond it’s humble appearance.

World War II was a big deal. Everyone knows that. Afganistan and Iraq are a big deal too, right?

In a word, “no.”

There’s fewer and fewer folks that know how big the difference really is. I only know through reading and I’m sure I’m only scratching the surface, but it is a big deal.

E C 42

This round was manufactured in 1942 as you might guess. This was part of the war effort. E C is Evansville Chrysler made in Evansville, OH.

Chrysler, the same folks that make cars.

Everyone in the US that could make something for the troops was doing so.

Chrysler had the equipment to form metal — they were making cars and all. Brass is a ductile metal just like everything else. The making of brass for shell cases is just a simple matter of squeezing the brass into the shape you need it.

Not just folks that make cars… What about IBM?

They made almost 350 thousand M1 Carbines. Underwood (the folks that make typewriters) made over half a million of them.

Not just industry of course, but every day people needed to change too. The old saw about women drawing lines up the back of their legs to simulate nylons — nylon was in very short supply. Rubber. Steel. Copper. Just about everything.

Imagine yourself in that situation. Like if Google suddenly shut down to crack encryption codes for instance. What would you do without Google? What about gas rationing? Rationing in general?

We’re soft now.

I don’t think we could make it.

Overpressure Ammunition

We came back from the range a week or two ago and with the cases that we’ve fired we seemed to pick up a rogue case.

In sorting En properly picked the 10mm from the pile of .40 that we shot. They are basically the same case, but the 10mm is a bit longer and it uses a large primer to set it off. Looking at it I quickly found something amis with it.

Of course that’s not what a proper 10mm. The jagged edge is a dead giveaway.

Left: Proper fired 10mm case. Right: Recovered 10mm case with a lateral split.

Looking at the primer, while not an exact science, really told the story.

This was shot out of a Glock. I’m going to presume that it’s out of a Glock 20 since I’ve never seen anyone with a 29. You can tell that it’s from a Glock because of the peculiar rectangular firing pin channel. Of course in this instance it actively flowed into the channel and completely flattened itself against the breech face as well.

Even the head-stamp shows a bit of distress.

The 10mm cartridge is really hand loader’s cartridge. It doesn’t have a lot of guns that are chambered for it as well. That being said it is a large-capacity cartridge and you can easily tune the load from a very light load to a real barrel-burner. The Starline brass is another piece of evidence since they mainly cater to handloaders. (I have seen Starline on a commercial loading from Fiocchi in .40 S&W, but I’ve never seen it elsewhere)

Putting the pieces together I can only guess that this particular case was overcharged, perhaps double-charged.

Here’s what it should look like, compared to the blown up round:

The case on the left shows no signs of the primer flowing at all. You can still see the radius at the edge of the primer as well. The head stamp seems significantly clearer as well — though that in and of itself isn’t enough to go on since I don’t have any other examples of what 10mm Starline brass looks like. Incidentally you can tell the good case was also fired out of a Glock, perhaps out of the same one. (I picked up the good case around a year ago; the broken case is from a week or two ago)

Here’s another example of a fired large pistol primer in a different (and lower pressure) case:

I don’t have any unfired factory large primer case, but they look a lot like the small primers.

All of these are from Winchester white box 9mm. Their still in their original case in this picture.

 

Here’s all of the fired large primers in one picture for comparison purposes.

I just wonder what happened to the gun when this round was touched off. Certainly it left some of itself in the chamber of the gun… How bad was it?

 

A festival of 9mm

Quick little post today… En and I went out to the range and shot off a bunch of 9mm (-ish) rounds today.

Loading up a magazine of either hand-loaded lead into the Sig X5 or factory ammo for the Beretta 92FS and Glock 17. To mix things up we had the Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum too.

Hey, the .357 is only 0.002″ bigger. I count that as the same as the 9mm.

It’s fun.

We shot off around 550 rounds give or take… around 200 rounds of hand-loaded lead, 300 rounds of factory (I have a pile of factory 9mm… I have jacketed bullets ready to load, just haven’t had the need) and anther 50 or so .357 Magnum hand loads.

Switching between the guns makes you focus on the fundamentals: sight picture and trigger control. I think I was shooting a lot better at the end than the beginning.

As an added bonus I think I’m getting a better handle on the Glock than before. I was complaining about the feel of the trigger but I think I’m finally getting used to it.

Mind you, the Sig’s trigger is infinitely better anyway… but I think I can finally shoot the Glock as well.

Reloading – a random tip

Quick and random one today. When I buy boxes for ammunition they always seem to come with stickers for the load information.

That might work fine for rifle loads when you load up 20 for hunting or something, but it seems to be a bit insufficient for pistol loads when I load up 300 in an sitting (or more!) and I reuse the boxes over and over.

That got me thinking about labels.

At OfficeMax I came across some semi-permanent labels: Post-it Labels

Here’s the template I’m using for them: Load Data Labels

I can tell you that they do go on fine, and just as importantly they come off fine too.

Here’s what I’m recording on each label: Lot Number, Cartridge Type, Powder Type, Powder Amount, Bullet Type, Bullet Weight, Overall Length, Production Date and Notes

All of these are also recorded in my log book (well, Google Spreadsheet), but it provides a great quick reference. (The log also includes things like lot numbers, and a whole bunch of other settings…)

Load Development – .45 ACP in the Springfield Trophy Match

So you know that I got myself a new gun. You can call it my birthday present if you want.

It certainly is a pretty gun. Smile Like the classic 1911 it’s chambered for in .45 ACP.

The problem is that factory ammunition like I wrote before is frickin’ expensive. A box of 50 rounds will set me back $25 at the range. I could save a bit of money if I get it online, but the cheapest I’ve seen is around $13/50 for really cheap Russian steel-cased ammo, or actual brass ammo for around $19 for the US-made stuff. Of course you have to figure in shipping so you have to order a bunch for it to be worth while. If I order up a thousand rounds for instance I’ll spend around $0.42 per round once everything is accounted for.

Or I can roll my own for around $0.12.  Razz

$0.082 – bullet
$0.026 – primer
$0.010 – powder

I’m not counting the case since I can reuse that over and over again. If you insist on counting that it would add roughly $0.05 per for a once-fired case.

Now of course the next thing I have to do if make some cartridges. Here’s where it gets tricky. There are several variables in play that need to be taken into account.

  • Maximum overall length (OAL) for the cartridge per the SAAMI spec. This is the longest round that should fit in the magazine.
  • Maximum OAL that will work in the gun that you’re using. Different guns will have different chamber, leade (the distance between mouth of the case and where the rifling starts), and rifling profiles that need to be considered. Put another way, just because a cartridge works in one gun, doesn’t mean it will work in another.
  • The OAL will determine the seating depth of the bullet, which in turn determines the amount of space inside the case for the powder.
  • The amount of powder that will be used for the load
  • Technically the primer and case need to be looked at as well, but since I’m not aiming for maximum loads, I can safely ignore those for now. If I were making really hot rifle loads, I’d need to consider them.

The biggest factors to take into account for safety is the seating depth and the amount of powder. I wrote up a pretty extensive post a while back that shows the interrelationship between the two and how it doesn’t always make sense intuitively.

First thing to consider is the load manuals.

My collection of laod manuals

Each one has different recipes for the same cartridge. Then you go online to the powder manufacturer’s sites. Then to the crowd-sourced ones. No two agree. The .45 is an interesting round since there’s even more than one spec for it. There’s the SAAMI spec, the CIP spec (European), and then the SAAMI spec for a +P version which can take more pressure. (Some older rounds have a similar issue, 9mm and .38 special are other ones mainly)

In my case I’m going to use HP38/Winchester 231 (same thing, different label) since I have a good supply of it.

The loads I saw ranged from starting loads of 4.4 grains (7000 grains = 1 pound) to 5.6 grains. The max loads went from 5.6 to 6.5 grains. Yes, one of the max load in one book was the starting load in another.

Why?

Different lots of powder. Different test barrels. Different max pressures (remember normal vs. +P) Different bullets. Different seating depths.

Then there’s the program I use – QuickLoad – that computes internal ballistics.

So who to trust?

No one. That’s why you develop loads yourself using the load books as a guide. Cross-check one book to another. Cross check those to the program. See what agrees. What are outliers? Can you explain them?

I settled for a test range of 4.7 grains up to 5.4 grains seated at 1.230″ for the bullets I was using. This was well in the safe range for everything based on my checks. I loaded up 10 each in 0.1 grain increments. (Yes, I hand-weighed each one!)

Next up – testing!

These are the targets for the test. Each one has five rounds on it. I shot them with the gun resting on the bench in front of me while I was sitting. I wanted to remove me as much from the equation as possible. This was for accuracy now.

Look at the group sizes from the lightest load to the heaviest one. It starts big, gets smaller, then gets big again. The sweet spot is right around 5.1 grains of powder. A half-inch group at around 30′ isn’t too bad! Grin

Why is that? I can make some educated guesses. On the low end you can have different powder burning characteristics that might lead to somewhat incomplete burning which would make for different velocities. On the high end you can get some resonances that you don’t want. The vertical stringing on the 4.7 target is a perfect example of differing velocities.

Here’s what QuickLoad predicts for my chosen load:

This will make power factor for IDPA and it seems to be the most accurate. Win!

BTW: I shortened the OAL by 5 thousandths to get better feeding. Of the 80 rounds tested (Ennie shot the other half) I had one feed issue so I’m shortening the cartridge a tad.

Variable/Flexible Pricing; Guns (A 1911 in particular)

(No, I’m not going to let this morning’s post be today’s post. That was just a delayed yesterday’s post! If you haven’t seen the X-Rays — Go check it out!! — Cool pics from the inside of me!)

So this is just an interesting case study in the short-term movement of the price of something I purchased recently. (Well, I didn’t really purchase it yet, I reserved it so I can be next in line and lock in the price, more on that later)

You know that I’ve ben itching for one of the classic American guns for a while now. The object of my affections is the good old 1911. It’s 100 years old this year and I figure it’s appropriate that I get myself one.

I want to shoot some IDPA competitions and the natural choice is the 1911 since the rules are basically laid out in a way that for some of the classes the only gun that fits the bill is the 1911. Based on that I wanted to get one that’s pre-decked out with the features that you want: front-strap checkering, mag-well, hand-fitted and so forth.

The one I settled on is the Springfield 1911 Trophy Match.

I’ve been watching that particular gun at Buds Gun Shop for a while now. It was typically priced at $1221. It came in stock for a moment and was again out of stock and it dropped down to $1157 for a day or two then went back up to $1221.

I saw the cycle start to repeat. It was in stock a few weeks later for a few hours then was gone again.

On the 15th it dropped back down to $1157 and I pulled the proverbial trigger to reserve it for me:

Price on May 15 when I ordered the gun

So there’s that I paid for it. Why did I get it? Probably it was me being completely full of self-pity the day after my crash. Women buy clothes. I buy hard stuff. (Not just firearms, but things like computers, radios, tools, test gear and all the that stuff.)

Aside: This is how I wind up with the weird collection of stuff I have. This is why I have a lightbox so I could post the X-rays earlier today.

The next morning after I paid for that, as if by clockwork the price went up to $1221 again. (I didn’t take a screenshot since I didn’t think I’d be writing about it)

Today I get an email that an item on my wishlist is in stock. Lo and behold the Springfield is in stock! And the price now is $1228! An hour later it was out of stock and holding at $1228.

As I started to write this post I refreshed the page out of curiosity and the price now is $1265 and it’s back in stock again!

Price on May 27 from around 11AM - 8PM

At this point I’m really wondering if this is a batch job that’s playing with the pricing or if someone is sitting down and tweaking these prices.

This post really doesn’t have a punchline. I guess the closest I can come to one is to pat myself on the back for buying low.

In any case, I’m hoping that they’ll ship it out next week and I’ll have a freshly minted 1911 of my very own.

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So I was about to hit post and decided to refresh the page once more:

Price on May 27 at 9PM

So there you have it. Back down to $1221. Full circle.

My theory: when they are putting together an order they have a low teaser price to get someone (like me) to start to finance the order. Then they gather up some more orders at the regular price. When they place the order to the manufacturer they order one or two more. Those get sold at the higher price to offset the teaser.

That’s what I’m thinking.

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Update: As of Saturday at 11:30AM the gun is back in stock selling at $1208.

Go figure.

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Last update: Now at 5:30PM it’s settled back to the norm of $1221 and out of stock.

Getting the itch again…

It’s been half a year since I picked up the P229… I’m getting the itch to pick up something else. At this point I’m looking mainly at rifles — but I’m itching for a 1911 as well.

In terms of rifles I’m going for both ends of the spectrum — from .22 to 30-06.

A nice Ruger 10/22 or a Browning SA-22 would be a nice addition to the collection — and cheap to shoot to boot. At the other end I’d like to pick up a real rifle — I was thinking a bolt-action 30-06 would be a fun gun to take out to the range. I’d have to shoot it at an outdoor range instead of the 75′ that I get at Stonewall to let it stretch it’s legs a bit. It’s odd that I’m thinking both some of the weakest and strongest at the same time. Go figure.

The nice thing about the 30-06 is that I can reload it for not too much money. If I were shooting factory stuff I’d be in the poorhouse in short order, but my own… well that’s another story! Grin

Back to the pistol thing — I’m looking to enter some IDPA matches so a good single-action 1911 would be the right gun for the task. I already have a thousand or so cases and have the dies to load up .45 ACP so I’m all set for that. All I’d need to get is some large primers and I’d be money!

Ok — I wouldn’t win money… but the more I load the more I save… right?